The Symbolic Significance of Trees

Roger 0:02

Talking Trees with Lillian Jad . Welcome to today's episode of Talking Trees . In this episode , we'll explore the rich symbolic significance of trees across various religions and mythologies , from the Tree of Life , a powerful symbol of immortality and divine connection , to the sacred Bodhi Tree in Buddhism , under which Buddha achieved enlightenment . These symbols highlight how deeply trees are woven into the spiritual fabric of different cultures and beliefs . Stay tuned for this enlightening discussion .

Jad 0:40

Hey everybody , welcome to this deep dive about trees and mythology .

Lilly 0:45

Really interesting topic .

Jad 0:46

Yeah , especially for all of you out there who are arborists . Absolutely I mean , think about it , you already spend all day , every day , up in the trees .

Lilly 0:53

That's right .

Jad 0:54

With the trees taking care of them .

Lilly 0:55

Yeah .

Jad 0:56

So we wanted to do something a little different . Sure , and look at trees through this lens of mythology and spirituality .

Lilly 1:02

Oh , I like that .

Jad 1:03

So we're going to start off with a real famous tree Okay , the Bodhi tree , of course . This is the tree in India where Siddhartha Gautama became the Buddha Right and achieved enlightenment .

Lilly 1:16

A very important species for a lot of people .

Jad 1:19

It is , and so the tree that's there now at the Mahabodhi temple it's not the original tree , but it's a direct descendant .

Lilly 1:27

Yeah , it's been propagated for centuries .

Jad 1:30

Can you imagine the importance of keeping that lineage alive for all of these hundreds and hundreds of years ? And then think about it . There's so many places around the world where saplings of this tree have been planted .

Lilly 1:43

Hawaii , sri Lanka .

Jad 1:45

California , Japan , I mean all over .

Lilly 1:47

Incredible .

Jad 1:48

And speaking of Sri Lanka , yes , the Sri Mahabodhi that's in Anuradhapura . That one was planted way back in 288 BCE , wow , and it's considered to be the oldest verified specimen of any angiosperm .

Lilly 2:03

That's amazing .

Jad 2:05

That's incredible .

Lilly 2:06

So much history in one tree .

Jad 2:08

I mean , imagine everything that tree has seen , I know , over 23 centuries .

Lilly 2:13

That's incredible . It's wild and you know what else is really interesting . The Bodhi tree is just one example of a very common archetype across so many different cultures .

Jad 2:22

I know what you're going to think the world tree or the cosmic tree ? Right like yggdrasil oh yeah in norse mythology that giant ash tree connecting the nine realms exactly .

Lilly 2:32

It's amazing and we see this idea in so many other places mesopotamia , mesoamerica , lots of others too I mean everywhere .

Jad 2:40

Right , and they usually depict it yeah , connecting the heavens and the earth and the underworld .

Lilly 2:44

It's like this axis of the entire cosmology Absolutely . And don't you love the pictures of the world tree ?

Jad 2:51

Oh yeah .

Lilly 2:51

Where you have those figures flanking it .

Jad 2:54

Sometimes deities , sometimes humans .

Lilly 2:56

Right , it's so cool .

Jad 2:57

It really shows that ancient belief about the connection between humanity and divine , and the tree is right in the middle right there at the center of it all absolutely now let's talk about a different tree .

Lilly 3:09

Okay , that's a little more complicated sure we're going to the garden of eden okay to the tree of knowledge of good and evil oh yeah , this one's all about choice and consequence right it's very different from the world tree right , because the world tree represents connection .

Jad 3:24

This one is about Well , people usually interpret the fruit of the tree .

Lilly 3:28

Yeah .

Jad 3:29

As wisdom or moral discrimination .

Lilly 3:32

Even the power to judge .

Jad 3:33

So it's not really about just gaining knowledge .

Lilly 3:36

Right .

Jad 3:37

It's about humans taking on a role . It was probably meant for something else .

Lilly 3:41

Yeah , like the divine .

Jad 3:43

And that's interesting because , as arborists , you're always making choices about trees . Of course , you have to Deciding which branch to prune or how to guide its growth .

Lilly 3:54

Right .

Jad 3:55

I wonder if our ancestors saw those same dilemmas .

Lilly 3:58

In the tree of knowledge .

Jad 3:59

In the tree of knowledge . Yeah , okay , so let's talk about one more tree . All right this one is a little darker . Okay , the Zaqwum .

Lilly 4:06

Oh yeah .

Jad 4:06

Which , in Islamic tradition , is a cursed tree in hell .

Lilly 4:11

The fruit are supposed to look like devil heads .

Jad 4:13

I know .

Lilly 4:14

And they cause like internal burning and suffering .

Jad 4:16

It's a very different image from the Bodhi tree .

Lilly 4:19

Absolutely . This one is about eternal punishment .

Jad 4:21

Right , but you know , even within the Quran , Like the healing gourd tree that was grown for the prophet Jonah .

Lilly 4:29

Right .

Jad 4:30

So even within one belief system , trees can be both .

Lilly 4:34

Both good and bad .

Jad 4:35

Punishment and blessing . It's so interesting yeah it's that duality of trees . I know that make them such powerful symbols .

Lilly 4:42

They really do inspire both awe and fear . You know , it's really fascinating just how these different ways of looking at trees reflect the complexities of being human right .

Jad 4:52

I mean , we see them as life-giving , but also as these powerful forces that can be scary that's right , inspiring both awe and fear you know , as we're talking about all these different belief systems , yeah , I'm realizing just how important trees were to our ancestors they were central to life . They weren't just something in the background .

Lilly 5:12

Right .

Jad 5:13

They were completely intertwined with everything .

Lilly 5:15

With culture and spirituality . They needed trees for practical stuff .

Jad 5:19

Of course .

Lilly 5:20

Food , shelter , medicine , but they also saw them as symbols .

Jad 5:25

About the universe , exactly Like those images we were talking about .

Lilly 5:28

Yeah .

Jad 5:29

With the figures flanking the tree . Oh yeah , it's everywhere .

Lilly 5:32

It really is a powerful archetype . It is Doesn't matter if it's Adam and Eve .

Jad 5:36

Yeah .

Lilly 5:37

Or some deities guarding a sacred grove .

Jad 5:41

Yeah . It always points to this belief that everything is connected and the tree is that point of contact .

Lilly 5:48

Yes .

Jad 5:50

The link between humans and the divine , and for a lot of ancient cultures , trees weren't just symbols .

Lilly 5:53

Right .

Jad 5:54

They were actually thought to be .

Lilly 5:55

Right .

Jad 5:56

The homes of spirits or gods .

Lilly 5:58

Oh wow , Can you imagine Like ?

Jad 5:59

if you were just walking through the forest ?

Lilly 6:01

Yeah .

Jad 6:01

And you came across a tree .

Lilly 6:03

And it was like that was sacred A sacred space .

Jad 6:05

It'll be amazing .

Lilly 6:06

I know it's hard to imagine that now . I know In our modern world .

Jad 6:11

But as arborists .

Lilly 6:12

Yeah .

Jad 6:13

You all have the chance to experience that .

Lilly 6:15

To feel that connection .

Jad 6:17

I mean when you're working with a tree , you're interacting with something .

Lilly 6:20

That's been alive for centuries . I mean that tree has seen so much , it's been through storms and droughts .

Jad 6:26

It's given shelter to animals . It really makes you realize that trees are more than just wood or shade . And maybe , if we listen , yeah we can learn something about ourselves .

Lilly 6:36

That's beautiful .

Jad 6:37

So we've talked about all these different beliefs . Yeah how trees have been intertwined with humanity through our history . I mean we've seen them as symbols of life and death wisdom , temptation and punishment .

Lilly 6:48

And that brings us to another idea okay about trees yeah the idea that they're sources of wisdom and knowledge oh , I like that like the bodhi tree where the buddha found enlightenment or the tree of knowledge with the potential for good and bad right , but how can we actually use that wisdom ?

Jad 7:05

in our work yeah as arborists . I think it starts with humility oh , okay we don't have all the answers . I mean , trees have been around a lot longer than us .

Lilly 7:13

That's for sure , and they figured out .

Jad 7:15

How to survive .

Lilly 7:16

Yeah , they're resilient .

Jad 7:17

So by watching them , studying them .

Lilly 7:20

Their growth .

Jad 7:21

How they react to stress .

Lilly 7:23

Their relationships .

Jad 7:24

We can learn how to care for them .

Lilly 7:26

Yeah , it's not just about science . It's like learning to speak their language , understanding what they need .

Jad 7:32

And you're connecting with this long line of tree caretakers .

Lilly 7:37

I know it's a legacy .

Jad 7:38

That goes back centuries .

Lilly 7:40

To the druids .

Jad 7:41

It shows how deep the connection is .

Lilly 7:43

Between humans and trees .

Jad 7:44

And in a world that's changing so fast .

Lilly 7:47

Yeah .

Jad 7:47

It's more important than ever .

Lilly 7:48

To remember that connection .

Jad 7:50

And to learn from the trees . You know , it's amazing to me how these old stories about trees they still mean something to us today .

Lilly 7:57

I know what you mean .

Jad 7:59

Even though we live in this tech-driven world , there's just something that draws us in .

Lilly 8:05

Yeah , that makes us think .

Jad 8:07

About bigger things . I mean think about it . For those ancient cultures , these beliefs about trees weren't just stories . They were a way of life .

Lilly 8:16

Their whole existence revolved around trees .

Jad 8:19

They needed them to survive .

Lilly 8:20

For food and shelter .

Jad 8:22

Right , but they also look to them .

Lilly 8:24

For guidance . For spiritual inspiration and , in a way , you , as arborists , you're carrying on that tradition .

Jad 8:33

I like that .

Lilly 8:33

I mean you're protecting these trees .

Jad 8:35

Yeah .

Lilly 8:36

Not just for their practical uses .

Jad 8:38

Right , but for what they represent .

Lilly 8:40

That deeper meaning .

Jad 8:41

It's like we're connecting the past and the present , and sometimes that wisdom comes from unexpected places .

Lilly 8:48

Like what .

Jad 8:48

Well , there's all this research now about the benefits of being in nature .

Lilly 8:52

Spending time with trees .

Jad 8:54

It can really help us .

Lilly 8:55

Both physically and mentally .

Jad 8:57

I mean , it makes sense , of course , we evolved in nature .

Lilly 9:00

We did . It's only recently .

Jad 9:01

That we've become so disconnected .

Lilly 9:03

Yeah .

Jad 9:04

So by reconnecting with trees , by understanding their importance to our world we're not just caring for them ?

Lilly 9:11

we're caring for ourselves all connected it is . It's about what it means to be human to be part of something bigger .

Jad 9:19

So to all you arborists out there , yeah , as you're up in the trees taking care of them remember those stories , the meaning behind it all you're not just working with trees you're connecting with a legacy of reverence and respect . And in a world that can feel so uncertain , that connection is more important than

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Jad 9:37

ever . Thanks for joining us on this deep dive .

Lilly 9:39

Until next time .

Jad 9:40

Keep reaching for the sky .

Roger 9:45

Thank you for joining us in this exploration of the symbolic significance of trees across different religions and mythologies . From the sacred Bodhi tree in Buddhism to the cursed Zakum in Islam , trees hold deep meanings in various cultures . If you enjoyed this episode and want to support our work , check out our exclusive content at heroheroco slash talkingtrees . Your support helps us bring more insightful discussions like this one . See you next time .