Roger: 0:02

Talking Trees with Lily and Jad. Welcome to this week's recap episode of Talking Trees. This week, we've explored a variety of topics covering trees and their environments. On Monday, we discussed water transport in trees, while Tuesday focused on felling techniques, wednesday covered pruning practices during tree planting and Thursday delved into tree morphophysiology and stability. On Friday, we highlighted the work of an organization dedicated to protecting ancient trees and Saturday rounded out the week with a look at the impact of grazing on forests and the biodiversity of green roofs in urban areas. Let's dive into these fascinating topics together.

Jad: 0:49

Hey Arborists, Welcome back to the Deep Dive.

Lilly: 0:52

Yeah.

Jad: 0:52

I know your work week was packed.

Lilly: 0:54

Absolutely.

Jad: 0:55

Trees don't keep to a nine to five, so we've done the heavy lifting for you with Talking Trees.

Lilly: 1:00

That's right.

Jad: 1:01

Talking Trees covered everything from water transport and felling techniques to ancient tree preservation and even sparked some debate with Franz Vera's theories.

Lilly: 1:10

Definitely, so we'll hit all the highlights Okay.

Jad: 1:12

Monday's deep dive into water. Yep, tuesday's look at felling.

Lilly: 1:16

Right.

Jad: 1:17

Wednesday's pruning discussion. Thursday's exploration of morphophysiology Uh-huh. Friday's profile of the ancient tree forum.

Lilly: 1:26

Right.

Jad: 1:26

And wrapping it up with Saturday's discussion of Franz Vera Yep, ready to get started.

Lilly: 1:31

Absolutely. Let's jump in.

Jad: 1:32

Monday's episode really caught my attention.

Lilly: 1:34

Oh yeah.

Jad: 1:35

With that groundbreaking research on how water moves through trees. It's amazing. It turns out those spiral-shaped nanofibers in phloem vessel walls.

Lilly: 1:45

Right.

Jad: 1:46

Might hold the key to almost frictionless water transport.

Lilly: 1:50

It's incredible, isn't it?

Jad: 1:51

Okay, that's pretty mind blowing.

Lilly: 1:53

I know.

Jad: 1:53

But how does that square?

Lilly: 1:54

Yeah.

Jad: 1:55

With what we already know about water movement in trees. Right Things like the cohesion tension theory.

Lilly: 2:00

Well, that's the big question.

Jad: 2:01

Yeah.

Lilly: 2:01

It's almost like this discovery throws a wrench into our understanding of embolism repair. Could these nanofibers play a role in that process?

Jad: 2:11

Hmm, I never thought about that.

Lilly: 2:14

It's definitely something to keep an eye on.

Jad: 2:16

Yeah.

Lilly: 2:16

What if this changes how we think about drought, stress in trees?

Jad: 2:20

Now, that is a game changer.

Lilly: 2:22

Right.

Jad: 2:22

Especially with the climate becoming increasingly unpredictable.

Lilly: 2:26

Exactly.

Jad: 2:27

Understanding this new mechanism could be crucial, oh for sure, for how we approach tree care in the future.

Lilly: 2:33

Absolutely.

Jad: 2:34

Moving on to Tuesday, talking trees got down to the nitty gritty of tree felling.

Lilly: 2:39

It did.

Jad: 2:40

We all love those satisfying felling videos.

Lilly: 2:43

Of course, who doesn't?

Jad: 2:45

But the episode had a lot more to offer than just spectacle.

Lilly: 2:48

Oh yeah, For sure.

Jad: 2:49

Oh yeah, those Husqvarna articles were packed with detailed techniques From the humbled notch to the gap cut Stuff you don't always see in those quick videos.

Lilly: 2:57

Yeah, you're right.

Jad: 2:58

Exactly, and Stuff you don't always see in those quick videos. Yeah, you're right, exactly. And what really stood out to me was the emphasis on safety precautions across all the sources.

Lilly: 3:06

Absolutely.

Jad: 3:06

No matter what technique they were discussing, safety was always front and center.

Lilly: 3:10

Yeah, remember that story.

Jad: 3:11

Oh yeah.

Lilly: 3:12

From the Huswarn article about the guy who almost got crushed by a leaning tree.

Jad: 3:16

Oh gosh yeah.

Lilly: 3:17

Because he didn't properly assess the situation. Whoa, that's a sober Crushed by a leaning tree.

Jad: 3:20

Oh gosh, because he didn't properly assess the situation. Whoa, that's a sobering reminder it is Makes you realize how important those safety checks really are.

Lilly: 3:26

Yeah.

Jad: 3:26

Every single time.

Lilly: 3:27

Every time.

Jad: 3:28

Absolutely Wednesday's episode tackled the debate.

Lilly: 3:31

Yes.

Jad: 3:32

On pruning newly planted trees and Talking Trees took a pretty bold stance. They did. It was interesting.

Lilly: 3:42

They basically said ditch the old school crown reduction after transplanting. Yeah, pretty much, really yeah.

Jad: 3:45

So are they saying don't prune at all?

Lilly: 3:47

Well, not necessarily Okay. They emphasized starting with high quality saplings.

Jad: 3:52

Okay.

Lilly: 3:52

And providing proper care.

Jad: 3:54

Right.

Lilly: 3:55

But when it came to pruning, yeah they advocated for minimal cuts. They even dove into the physiological reasons why excessive pruning can actually hinder a young tree's establishment.

Jad: 4:08

Okay, I'm starting to see their point.

Lilly: 4:10

Yeah.

Jad: 4:11

But how do you guide the tree's development without pruning?

Lilly: 4:17

Well, that's where formative pruning comes in.

Jad: 4:19

Okay.

Lilly: 4:19

It's all about making targeted cuts Right To shape the tree's structure and encourage strong branch attachments.

Jad: 4:26

Okay.

Lilly: 4:27

Think of it as setting the tree up for success in the long run.

Jad: 4:30

So it's less about removing branches and more about directing growth. Exactly that makes sense.

Lilly: 4:34

Yeah.

Jad: 4:35

This completely changes my approach to planting projects.

Lilly: 4:37

I know right.

Jad: 4:46

It really challenges the status quo, doesn't it it? Does On Thursday Talking Trees went deep into the world of tree morphophysiology. It did and honestly I felt like I needed a dictionary for that one.

Lilly: 4:51

Oh yeah, it can be a complex topic.

Jad: 4:53

Yeah.

Lilly: 4:53

But essentially it's about understanding the connection between a tree's form, its function and its development throughout its entire lifespan.

Jad: 5:04

So it's like looking at the big picture of a tree's life right Exactly.

Lilly: 5:08

They discuss things like architectural models, growth phases and even how seemingly defective morphology can actually contribute to a tree's stability. Effective morphology can actually contribute to a tree's stability. Wow, imagine being able to predict a tree's future just by understanding its past and present form. Wow, that's the power of morphophysiology.

Jad: 5:30

That's incredible.

Lilly: 5:31

Isn't it?

Jad: 5:31

It sounds like it could really change the way we assess and manage trees For sure. Now, friday's episode brought us to the world of ancient trees, specifically the work of the Ancient Tree Forum, or ATF Right. They're a group of passionate individuals.

Lilly: 5:46

They are.

Jad: 5:47

Dedicated to protecting these majestic giants.

Lilly: 5:50

Absolutely.

Jad: 5:51

I remember that episode had a really inspiring tone. It did they talk about Ted Green? Yeah, the founder of the ATF.

Lilly: 5:57

Right.

Jad: 5:57

And his incredible dedication.

Lilly: 5:59

Amazing.

Jad: 6:00

To preserving these living monuments.

Lilly: 6:01

Really is.

Jad: 6:03

What really struck me.

Lilly: 6:04

Yeah.

Jad: 6:04

Was that? They're not just talking about protecting individual trees, right, they're looking at the entire ecosystem.

Lilly: 6:10

They even shared their 2022-2027 strategy, which focuses on engaging more volunteers, expanding educational programs and building strong partnerships.

Jad: 6:31

It's really impressive how much they're doing with limited resources. It makes you realize the impact a small group of dedicated people can have. It really does Right. They're really leading the charge championing these ancient trees, and their work has valuable lessons for all of us. It does All right. Let's wrap up this week's recap OK With Saturday's episode Yep, which got a little controversial.

Lilly: 6:54

Oh yeah.

Jad: 6:55

By diving into Franz Vera's work on European forest history. Vera's work is definitely thought provoking.

Lilly: 7:02

It is.

Jad: 7:03

He challenges the long held belief that pre-industrial agriculture enriched European biodiversity. So he's saying human intervention didn't actually create the diverse forests we see today.

Lilly: 7:16

Exactly. He argues that these landscapes actually supported greater biodiversity and their more natural state, which he believes was more like a parkland with grazing animals.

Jad: 7:26

Wow, that's a pretty radical idea.

Lilly: 7:28

It is.

Jad: 7:29

I'm not sure I buy it, but it's definitely interesting to think about.

Lilly: 7:33

Oh, for sure.

Jad: 7:34

It definitely challenges conventional thinking.

Lilly: 7:36

So, as you're out there working with trees this week, I want you to consider how does Vera's perspective challenge your assumptions about forest management? Does it change how you view the role of humans in shaping these ecosystems?

Jad: 7:52

That's a good question.

Lilly: 7:53

Yeah, food for thought.

Jad: 7:54

It is.

Lilly: 7:55

Yeah, it really makes you think.

Jad: 7:56

It does. What's fascinating here is how all these seemingly disparate topics connect into the bigger picture of tree care. It's not just about knowing how to climb a tree Nope or operate a chainsaw.

Lilly: 8:08

It's so much more than that.

Jad: 8:09

It's about understanding the science, the history, the interconnectedness of it all, absolutely. Precisely, and that's what makes talking trees such a valuable resource for professional arborists.

Lilly: 8:23

It is.

Jad: 8:23

They don't shy away from complex topics, nope, and they encourage critical thinking. For sure, I appreciate that they don't just present information as black and white. They acknowledge the debates, the uncertainties and the evolving nature of our understanding of trees.

Lilly: 8:40

Right, because it is evolving.

Jad: 8:41

Absolutely. It reminds us that we're all constantly learning and adapting as arborists. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the world of talking trees.

Lilly: 8:51

Yeah, Thanks for listening everyone.

Jad: 8:52

We'll be back next week with more insights and inspiration.

Roger: 9:08

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